Giuliani Seeks Ukraine Help for Trump 2020: Truly Astonishing and Troublesome Story

Who me? I'm off to Ukraine to get help for 2020 win.

Why you asking? Nothing illegal about that.

(Psst: Overt now; then Covert later, right, Rudy)

MAJOR UPDATE (May 11, 2019) (new photo updated too):

Giuliani scraps his plans to go the Ukraine and seek their help to benefit Trump in 2020 – has now scrapped those plans citing concerns about who he would be dealing with there.

My insert: LOL LOL LOL – what a joke – he got tons of heat for a stupid, perhaps even unlawful idea in the first place – what a moron Rudy Gee is … a sad, sad human being.

NEW YORK (PBS from The AP) — Democrats (and others) denounced a plan by Trump’s personal attorney to push Ukraine to open investigations that he hopes could benefit Trump politically, saying it was an overt attempt to recruit foreign help to influence a U.S. election.

Now, Giuliani has scrapped plans to visit Ukraine, citing concerns about who he would be dealing with there saying in part to Fox News on Friday (May 10): “I’ve decided … I’m not going to go to the Ukraine. I’m not going to go because I think I’m walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president … in some cases enemies of the United States, and in one case an already convicted person who has been found to be involved in assisting the Democrats with the 2016 election.”

(My 2^nd insert: LOL LOL LOL: What a weasel Giuliani is).

Giuliani had said earlier (re: original article below) that he would to travel to Kiev in the coming days to urge the government: (1) to investigate the origins of special counsel Robert Mueller’s recently concluded probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, and (2) about the involvement of former Vice President Joe Biden’s son worked in a gas company as attorney adviser that was owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

Joe Biden is the early Democratic front-runner to challenge Trump in the 2020 election. The Biden campaign has denied that Biden or his son, Hunter, did anything improper (clarified and explained below):

Background on that follows from article journalist:

The trouble began when right-wing bloggers sought to meld two points into a single conspiracy in which Joe Biden had the prosecutor sacked to protect his son’s business interests. On this particular issue, I have a genuine insight into what happened, having written extensively about Hunter Biden’s ex-employer, Mykola Zlochevsky. As a result, when journalists seek the fire behind the smoke in the Biden-Ukraine tale, they often call to ask my opinion.

Many are eager to flesh out what seems a satisfyingly simple conspiracy, but I have to tell them: It isn’t true. The timeline doesn’t work. 

The investigation into Burisma, Hunter Biden’s employer, had ground to a halt long before the prosecutor was sacked. 

A subsequent probe into the company’s owner was opened because of a request from Ukrainian legislators, not because of prosecutorial initiative.

There is, in short, no there there; the bloggers are putting two and two together — and coming up with 22.

My Original Post Follows:

WASHINGTON (NY Times) — Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, is encouraging Ukraine to wade further into sensitive political issues in the United States, seeking to push the incoming government in Kiev to press ahead with investigations that he hopes will benefit Trump.

Giuliani said he plans to travel to Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, in the coming days and wants to meet with the nation’s president-elect to urge him to pursue inquiries that allies of the White House contend could yield new information about two matters of intense interest to Trump:

* One is the origin of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

* The other is the involvement of former Vice President Joe Biden’s son in a gas company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

(Related from the Washington Post here).

Giuliani’s plans create the remarkable scene of a lawyer for the president of the United States pressing a foreign government to pursue investigations that Trump’s allies hope could help him in his re-election campaign. 

And it comes after Trump spent more than half of his term facing questions about whether his 2016 campaign conspired with a foreign power.

Giuliani said: “We’re not meddling in an election, we’re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do.”

Then he added: “There’s nothing illegal about it. Somebody could say it’s improper. And this isn’t foreign policy — I’m asking them to do an investigation that they’re doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And I’m going to give them reasons why they shouldn’t stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”

My 2 cents: So, benefiting from a foreign government’s election help (Ukraine) to enable Trump to win in 2020 is okay, but it was “a lie, a hoax, a witch hunt, and not collusion” in 2016 when the focus was on Russia helping Trump win?

What crock of s**t to say the least. So, this approach and words from the personal attorney of the President of United States is okay just because he says so?

This is truly an amazing and astonishing story. This should be a campaign issue of grave concern. Why? How can we trust any information from Ukraine, when we weren’t willing to believe or trust info from Russia (tongue-in-cheek intended)?

This amounts to a ton of hypocritical GOP BS and it is a huge disconnect with the public’s best interests and truly unbelievable.

I guess Rudy Gee's bottom line, if successful will be to say like Trump, Jr. said about getting Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton: “If true, I love it.”

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